- " 'Female Gendercide' - Wow, Somebody Woke Up"
(June 6, 2012) - "Spamming for Jesus?"
(June 6, 2012)
My Way, or God's Way
Original sin, Catholic style, isn't the idea that God created an utterly vile, warped, basically bad, humanity. Or that we're icky to the core now. I've posted about what sort of creatures we are:- " 'For Each Other' "
(May 9, 2012)
"it has something to do with free will" is true: but nowhere near a complete explanation. (May 23, 2012) Here's part of what the Catholic Church says about why people do bad things:
"ORIGINAL SIN: The sin by which the first human beings disobeyed the commandment of God, choosing to follow their own will rather than God's will. As a consequence they lost the grace of original holiness, and became subject to the law of death; sin became universally present in the world. Besides the personal sin of Adam and Eve, original sin describes the fallen state of human nature which affects every person born into the world, and from which Christ, the 'new Adam,' came to redeem us (396-412)."There's quite a bit more to say about original sin: Catechism, 388-412, for starters. Before wading into that, I think I'd better explain what "Adam and Eve" means, from a Catholic point of view.
(Catechism of the Catholic Church, Glossary)
Adam and Eve, Lingerie, and Sacred Scripture
In my native culture, the phrase "Adam and Eve" shows up:- In the name of several erotic lingerie stores
- As a topic for
- Cartoons
- Funny
- Otherwise
- Jokes
- Funny
- Otherwise
- Cartoons
- In association with a refusal to learn about God's creation
- Do I think Adam and Eve
- Do I think Sacred Scripture is
God, Creation, the Bible, and Me
I recommend reading this discussion of the Bible:- "Understanding the Bible"
Mary Elizabeth Sperry, Associate Director for Utilization of the New American Bible, USCCB
As a practicing Catholic, there are some things I have to believe, like:
- God is real
(Catechism, 198) - God created/is creating - everything
(Catechism, 279, 301, 302-305) - The universe is beautiful
- And may be studied
- Honest research can't contradict faith
- Because God made the universe
- It's faith and reason
(Catechism, 50, 156-159)
Original Sin: Catholic Style
The Church says that original sin is:- Real
(Catechism, 388-389) - The "reverse side" of the Good News
- The Good News is that
- Jesus is the Savior of all men
- All need salvation
- Salvation is offered to all through Christ
- The Good News is that
One question at a time.
Original Sin Matters
About original sin, yes, acknowledging it is important:"...The Church, which has the mind of Christ,263 knows very well that we cannot tamper with the revelation of original sin without undermining the mystery of Christ."'Having the mind of Christ refers to 1 Corinthians 2:16, by the way.
(Catechism, 389)
Another 'by the way:' I think it's very important to remember that Jesus is either I AM, or a raving lunatic. (March 11, 2012) I take John 8:57-58 seriously, and know what happened later: which is why I became a Catholic. That's yet another topic.
About 'sincerely believing?' That's still more topics:
- " 'Love Thy Neighbor:' Putting Faith Into Practice"
(February 5, 2012) - "Faith, Works, and Spirituality for Dummkopfs"
(October 5, 2011) - "An Eternal Life I can Live With"
(August 27, 2011)
Evicted From Eden
Original sin "has something to do with free will," since "the original fault" was "freely committed:""The account of the fall in Genesis 3 uses figurative LANGUAGE, but affirms a primeval event, a deed that took place at the beginning of the history of man.264 Revelation gives us the certainty of faith that the whole of human history is marked by the original fault freely committed by our first parents.265"I think Catechism, 390, is also a good reminder about Western culture's tendency to avoid figurative language; or mistake poetry for statistics.
(Catechism, 390)
Consequences
Genesis 3:16-19 outlines consequences of the "original fault freely committed by our first parents." Maybe "in pain shall you bring forth children" and "Until you return to the ground, from which you were taken" seems harsh. (Genesis 3:16, 19)I don't see it that way: but I accept the idea that actions have consequences. In this case, very long-term consequences.
"The Well of the Past"
I'm Catholic, so I believe Genesis 3:1-6. But that doesn't mean that I believe Earth is flat, or that the universe is about 6,000 years old.What we're learning about how "deep is the well of the past" (Thomas Mann) doesn't bother me. I might as well let my faith be shaken by the knowledge that "noon" in Minneapolis doesn't happen at the same time as "noon" in London or Bangkok.
The awesome scale of God's creation, as discovered in the last century or so, can be breathtaking. It also seems quite consistent with believing that God is all-powerful:
- " 'Only a Few of His Works Have We Seen' "
(February 27, 2012) - "Science isn't a Four-Letter Word"
(January 29, 2012) - " 'In a State of Journeying' "
(January 18, 2012)
Kids, Remember This - - -
I've told my children part of what learned from my parents: but not everything. Some things were important in my youth, but not so much now. I'm sure that I've forgotten some of the tidbits of knowledge I received.I remembered 'the important stuff,' though, and made sure that my kids learned it. I'm sure that my parents did the same for me, and their parents before them.
Knowledge can be lost that way. But one memory was so important that it was passed along for thousands of generations.
We once were in harmony with God, but chose to disobey.
Fallen, Not Forgotten
There's quite a bit more about original sin and creation's 'back story' in this part of the Catechism:- Fallen Angels
(Catechism, 391-395) - Friendship, freedom, and God
(Catechism, 396) - Our first sin
(Catechism, 397-401) - Consequences of Adam's sin
(Catechism, 402-406) - "A hard battle . . ."
(Catechism, 407-409) - We're fallen, not forgotten
(Catechism, 410-412)
Related posts:
- Sin and hope
- "Hope, Joy, and Working for a Better World"
(September 13, 2011) - "We Won: Quite a While Ago"
(January 13, 2011) - "Original Sin, Free Will, ADD, and There Goes the Air Conditioner"
(October 15, 2010) - "Demonic Deception? Or What You Get When We Play God?"
(May 5, 2010) - "5th Sunday of Lent 2009: A Reflection"
(April 5, 2009)
- "Hope, Joy, and Working for a Better World"
- Holy Scripture
- "When to Call Tech Support, When to Read the Bible"
(January 14, 2011) - "Studying the Bible: Carefully"
(November 16, 2010) - "Joseph's Bones, a Promise, and Passing the Word"
(December 20, 2010) - "If Catholics aren't Supposed to Read the Bible, How Come We're Told to Read the Bible?"
(May 31, 2010) - "Catholics Don't Believe the Bible: Who Knew?"
(September 26, 2008)
- "When to Call Tech Support, When to Read the Bible"
- The Catholic Church
- "Catholics aren't Calvinists"
(May 7, 2012) - "Being Catholic: By Choice"
(March 18, 2012) - "The Man Who Wouldn't Stay Dead"
(March 11, 2012) - "Modernism, Luddites, Catholicism, and Godzilla"
(April 7, 2011)
Particularly - "The Catholic Church; Counter-Culture; and Fitting In"
(April 23, 2010)
- "Catholics aren't Calvinists"
- Science
- "Taking Life a Thousand Years at a Time"
(June 10, 2012) - "The Beauty of the Universe, God, and Respect"
(March 21, 2012) - "The World isn't Flat"
(June 9, 2012) - "Beauty, Science, and a Crazy Idea"
(March 14, 2012) - "God's Creation: He Seems to Think Big"
(September 23, 2010)
- "Taking Life a Thousand Years at a Time"
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