You'd think we didn't want people to have any fun. And that's another topic.
Then there are other folks who seem equally certain that when they pass a Catholic church, it's a whore house.
I think they're both wrong: but I'm one of those people, so I would say that.October 29, 2010, January 22, 2010, August 1, 2009) You won't find it in the phone book. To my knowledge, there isn't an organization that calls itself that.
But there are a few that seem determined to earn the description. Like Fred Phelps' "Westboro Baptist Church" (WBC) of Topeka Kansas:" which has nothing to do with the Westboro Baptist Church of Westboro, Ontario - apart from the name.
Frothing Preachers, Assumptions, and the Catholic ChurchI think one reason that so many folks react strongly against the Catholic Church is that they've heard about the Vatican's disapproval of homosexual behavior. 'Just like' frothing preachers of the Fred Phelps variety. I'll get back to that.
Fred Phelps and the WBC are in the news again.1 This time because they didn't manage to disrupt a funeral. Or, from their point of view, exercise their free-speech rights of public assembly.November, 2007)
I'm not surprised that they're still around. Their sort of malignant virtue seems to have a lasting appeal among a small but loyal slice of the population. At least, I hope it's small. Fred Phelps and company seem convinced that 'God hates fags' - as a URL registered by them says: godhatesfags.com.
It might be polite to ignore the WBC's statements. But I've learned to be cautious when reading paraphrases made by others. I think Mr. Phelps deserves to have his ideas presented in his own words. For his sake, I hope that Mr. Phelps actually believes what he writes:
"Since 1955, WBC has taken forth the precious from the vile, and so is as the mouth of God (Jer. 15:19). In 1991, WBC began conducting peaceful demonstrations opposing the fag lifestyle of soul-damning, nation-destroying filth.It might seem that Mr. Phelps is simply repeating the Catholic Church's policy regarding homosexuality. Even if that were true, Mr. Phelps is emphatically not a practicing Catholic:
"In response, america bombed WBC, sued WBC, prosecuted WBC, burned WBC. God is now america's enemy: 5,790 dead soldiers; 218,400,000+ gals. of oil in the Gulf; $13.7 trillion+ national debt. 'Arise, O LORD, in thine anger...because of the rage of mine enemies...' (Ps 7:6)
"america crossed the line on June 26, 2003, when the Supreme Court ruled in Lawrence v. Texas that we must respect sodomy. WBC's gospel message is your last hope."
(godhatesfags.com, November 8, 2010)
"...WBC engages in daily peaceful sidewalk demonstrations opposing the homosexual lifestyle of soul-damning, nation-destroying filth. We display large, colorful signs containing Bible words and sentiments, including: GOD HATES FAGS, FAGS HATE GOD, AIDS CURES FAGS, THANK GOD FOR AIDS, FAGS BURN IN HELL, GOD IS NOT MOCKED, FAGS ARE NATURE FREAKS, GOD GAVE FAGS UP, NO SPECIAL LAWS FOR FAGS, FAGS DOOM NATIONS, THANK GOD FOR DEAD SOLDIERS, FAG TROOPS, GOD BLEW UP THE TROOPS, GOD HATES AMERICA, AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD IS DOOMED, etc...."
("About Us, godhatesfags.com)
"...We will say every time we come to a catholic church (aka whore house) we will remind you that Priests Rape Children...."Yes, I know about the pedophile priests. Moving on.
("Westboro Baptist Church Picket Schedule," godhatesfags.com, (from Google cache November 8, 2010))
I shouldn't have to write this, but - there are significant differences between the godhatesfags.com philosophy and what the Holy See teaches. I've discussed this before.
Quite a bit, I see. Including these posts:
- "Rutgers Gay Suicide Reality Check"
(October 1, 2010)
- "Rutgers Suicide, Celebrities, and This Catholic"
(September 30, 2010)
- "The Manhattan Declaration: Hateful? - Who Knew?"
(November 21, 2009)
- " 'Army of Oppression,' Unmentionables, and Being Catholic in America"
(August 17, 2010)
- "Homosexuality: It's Not What You Feel, it's What You Do that Counts"
(April 21, 2009)
- " 'Dumb B*ch' Carrie Prejean: Faith, and an 'Apoplectic' Blogger"
(April 21, 2009)
- "The Catholic Church and Homosexuals: Harsh and Soft, Judgmental and Understanding"
(March 13, 2009)
Not all in the same way, of course.
Since I'm a practicing Catholic, the way I treat people I love doesn't quite conform to America's cultural mores. For example, if a person I love is doing something that's self-destructive, I'm supposed to help that person stop.
Think of it this way. If I walked into a room and saw my wife with a gun to her head, about to kill herself, would it be a loving act to be 'supportive,' and say something like 'you go, girl!' - or maybe help her pull the trigger?
Oh, boy - that's not such an obvious example these days. And that's yet another topic.
- "Crowbar for Christ in Colorado?"
(October 7, 2010)
- "Anger, Hate, Love, Prayer and Trashing a Maywood, California, Catholic School"
(May 26, 2010)
- "Those Heretics May Not Like being Called Heretics"
(May 16, 2010)
- "Tolerance: Yes, it's a Good Idea"
(August 3, 2009)
- "The Pope, the Antichrist, and Fu Manchu"
(October 2, 2008)
- "Islam, Christianity, Culture, and Kooks"
Another War-on-Terror Blog (November 26, 2007)
- "Tolerance Only Goes So Far"
Another War-on-Terror Blog (October 31, 2007)
- "Does Free Speech Include Disrupting Funerals?"
Another War-on-Terror Blog (October 26, 2007)
1 From WDAF-TV FOX 4, Kansas City, Missouri:
"Supporters Block Funeral Protest in Weston"
fox4kc.com (November 6, 2010)
"People in Weston, Missouri banded together on Saturday. They wanted to protect loved ones who were saying goodbye to a fallen soldier and stood up to members of the Westboro Baptist Church who planned to protest at Sgt. First Class C.J. Sadell's funeral.
"Sadell died October 24 from injuries he suffered in a surprise attack in Afghanistan. On Saturday, there was quite a turnout of people who wanted to keep the protesters away from the funeral.
" 'I'd say probably half the people in Weston are here,' said Eric Moser, Marine Corp veteran.
"Weston has less than 2,000 residents, and hundreds of people showed up to support the family of First Sgt. Sadell....
"...'If you think about it, they've all gone to serve just so we could be able to do this,' said Rebecca Rooney who organized the supporters. 'He didn't die in vain.'
"Rebecca Rooney is a Weston resident who wanted to stand up against Fred Phelps and his followers....
"..Supporters came armed with patriotic music and American flags. The protesters didn't stick around long once they saw the supporters...."